Art+2

For the second wiki entry on art, please examine the following drawing and comment at least twice by 11:59pm on Sunday, March 13th.



M. Gutierrez: Is this good art? M.Getch: This is from Heart of Darkness. It is good art, because it makes you feel.

A.Castaneda: Mr.Getch it makes you feel what exactly? What does this art make you feel?

M.Getch: It makes me violent and repulsed. I feel very hateful towards the man in the center, but I have to ask myself why. Then things spiral from there......

A.Castaneda: Can someone please clarify what the man in the middle is holding in both of his hands, im not exactly sure.

N.cuevas: I am not sure but they look like human arms.

M.Getch: Those are the two halves of what was a baby, or small child.

A.Castaneda: Would this be considered good art even though it portays negative feelings towards the audience?

M. Agúndez: The fact that the painting portrays negative feelings does not diminish the quality of the art Ms. Catañeda. Art, as it was described in class, is good art when it is able to portray emotions to the audience, thus the painting is still good art through it's negative feelings.

B. Uribe: Do the grusome aspects of the picture affect the quality of it?

B. Uribe: Some people may consider this piece to be bad art because they are taken back by the blunt cruelty and lack of remorse being shown. This picture is ment to show, and possibly exaggerate, the inhumane ways in which the Spanish treated the natives clearly explaining it's message, making it a good work of art.

E.Tenort: This art does make you feel, it makes me feel estranged. This is the kind of art that is meant to offend like the book is. being so successful at this it is good art.

E.Tenort: This art also shows skill being detailed and man made.

N.Cuevas: I agree with Mr. Tenort because this piece of art contains skill and still shows a story that makes the audience feel a certain way towards a subject.

L. Silva: This is a good work of art in the sense that it accurately portrays the cruelty of the Spanish upon the natives.

L. Silva: It is reasonable that some people may consider this "bad" art because of the lack of color or artistic skill, ultimately missing the main purpose that can only be understood by taking the context into account.

M.Gutierrez: Can you look at this painting objectively?

M.Gutierrez: I think you can look at this art objectively because I think this is good art not because of the context of the art but the quality of the art.

Pepe: To milton: you need the context to fully understand the message of the art. Otherwise you're thinking something like "ooooh this is preettyyyy," instead of thinking "Wow this art work has quality and it has clear message."

M. Agúndez: @ Pepe- When being objective you only observe the work and not the feeling correct? Then is Milton wrong or right?

G.Yanez: The drawing is handmade, which as revealed in the image, it takes great skills to perform.

G.Yanez: Besides the physical quality of the work, the drawing is also poignant appealing to the public's emotions.

Pepe: So would the racist bands Ms. Eddy mentioned be considered good art?

N.Cuevas: This is an awesome piece of art because it expresses emotions about history.

Curtis Wilson-Patterson: This piece of art does a great job at conveying the emotions of the situation that was taking place in that time period.

Curtis Wilson-Patterson: This piece of art shows us that it was a period of sadness and misery.

E.Tenort: I sent a message to the "turn the world inside out" thingy sorry i did not show the draft to you guys first here it is; Hello I am a 11th grader that attends Castle Park High School, Chula Vista, California. I am in the school's international baccalaureate (IB) that promotes an international view and world changing projects such as your own. Being located so close to the border there is a high percentage of Latin students at the high school, over 80%, this is also true for most of the school district and most of Southern California. There are also high percentages of students without there papers( illegal) and those first generation to the states. Castles Park's students would like to request assistance from your organization to post pictures of illegal and legal students upon the borders walls mimicking the face to face protest in that it would be impossible for anyone to tell the difference between the groups. From Chinese-Mexicans to Cuban-Mexicans we hope to post up a wide variety of students that will be in a academic pose, for example reading a book, writing..ect. Our message is simple; **all students deserve a right to an education no matter their legal status without having to worry about deportation, discrimination, demonization of character by an ignorant society, or the decomposition of there native traditions.** I hope you will allow us to help you turn the world inside out, we can not do this without your assistance.

Thank you for your consideration,

Eric Tenort

E. Peterson: I cannot consider this good art cause it did not appeal to me in anyway nor did it make me feel any emotions towards it. To me there is no message in it. Its simply brutality of what happened during this period in history, which is depicted in this drawing or sketch.

E. Peterson: Ms. Cuevas dont all forms of art express emotion? How is this art more "awesome" then any other which express emotions as well whether about history or any other subject?