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For this week's wiki, please use the gray boxes in our reading to drive your discussion. Are there any questions you take issue with? Why? Do you all agree on the answers? What can this tell us about the relationship between Math and knowledge?

As always, the wiki entry is due by midnight on Sunday, December 5th!

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N.Cuevas: I had many issues with the color of the bear question! I could not understand how to determine its color with out proper information. What's the answer?

N.cuevas: Ms. Castaneda, do you believe that aliens would have a complete different kind of mathematics? I think they do.

A.Castaneda: Ms. Cuevas, indeed, I completely agree with you that aliens have a different kind of mathematics than us. Actually, their mathematics is incredibly more advanced than our math and too advance for a human being to understand.

L. Silva: Ms. Castaneda, where did yu get the assumption that aliens have a different math than us? I believe they (if aliens exist) base their math off the same axioms, their math may simply be more advanced, although, not different.

A.Castaneda: I as well had a little problem with the bear question as well, I couldn't understand how I can know the color of the bear with the reading and the information given.

M.Gutierrez: I have to disagree with ms. Castaneda and ms. Cuevas because we can't actually know for sure that our math is any different then the math aliens use (if there are any aliens). And just because thier math is more advanced then ours doesn't mean it's any different than the math we use today, it just means that theirs is more advanced.

M.Agúndez: I agree with Mr.Gutierrez. Aliens, if they exist, are supposed to be more advanced than us humans but that doesn't mean that they have different math than humans though. I can see how Ms.Castaneda and Ms.Cuevas believe that their math is different because math is an invention of man and might vary because they are aliens but IF their math is different it is just because it is interpreted differently due to their knowledge and perception.

Curtis Wilson-Patterson: I also did not understand how to determine the color of the bear stated in the question on page 207 of our theory of knowledge book.

Curtis Wilson-Patterson: I agree with Mr. Guitierrez, that if there are aliens the fact their math is more advanced than ours does not prove that it is different than ours. For example one might take advanced math courses and there are others who are taking the same math course at a slower pace.

G.Yanez. To Cuevas, Castaneda, Luis and to whomever else this may concern. Why do you make such assumptions about aliens' mathematics? If they exist, how can you be sure that their math is based on the same axioms as ours, if they might live in a different world where all their axioms need to be different than ours? Last but not least, why do you think that they are more advanced than us? We do not even know. I think science fiction has indoctrinated in us the idea that aliens are superior to us.

M.Agúndez: Well i went over the bear color problem and i am confused as well. Ms. Eddy there has to be some major discussing in class on wednesday unless, of course someone finds out the answer and shares it on the wiki.

G.Yanez: Now what you all were waiting for, here is the solution for the bear problem: To solve the problem I have developed the following formula. //C=r(S+W)/(N+E)// Let C represent the color of the bear, r=red, S=The distance traveled south by the hunter after leaving his house//,// W=the distance traveled west by the hunter after leaving his house//,// N=the distance traveled north after killing the bear, E=the distance traveled east after killing the bear//. So the color of the bear is equal to r multiplied by the sum of the distances traveled by the hunter before killing the bear, divided by the sum of the distances traveled by the hunter after killing the bear.// Now, let us plug in the values:

C=red(1 + 1)/(1 + 1) C=red2/2 C=red

So the color of the bear is red, which makes sense because the bear after being shot would be covered in blood. Thank you.

E. Peterson: About the alien's math; who said that all aliens have a more advanced math? (if any are real) Whether aliens are more advanced or not is a pretty obscure subject since we haven't communicated with any. How do we know that we did not mess up anywhere in our math? Also don't forget that they could be using a complete different language so we would have to decipher that such language in order to figure out how their math system is set. Many of you also say that we have our own math and aliens have their own as well. I believe that this is a false statement since math in any place, galaxy, or universe is the same math fund in any other place; the only thing that could be different is just the language, but the axioms must always be the same. So, I don't believe that there is man-made math and alien-made math. Math just exists.

E. Peterson: I agree with everyone else on the bear color problem, it was a bit confusing, may we go over it in class?